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A SHORT STORY... BRIEF DIALOG BETWEEN THE REPRESENTATIVE OF RAINBOW AND THE GREEK AMBASSADOR IN OSCE ON THE HDIM IN WARSAW 29.09.2005

  On the recent HDIM (Human Dimension Implementation meeting) of OSCE in
  Warsaw (25-30 September) dedicated mainly to human rights and minority
  issues Rainbow has been participating as an organization of the
  Macedonian minority in Greece.

  During the meeting representatives of NGOs are able to expose their
  views and facts before the State delegates regarding the violations of
  minority and human rights.

  State and NGO delegates are  speaking in the same place at the same
  time under equal conditions. State delegates have just one more right
  which is the right to reply.

  In these circumstances a specific dialog is taking place among all the
  delegates of the meeting.

  In this framework the representative of Rainbow was able to expose the
  present situation of the Macedonian minority in Greece as well as a
  general view about the issue of human and minority rights in Greece.

  The representative of the Greek state has once again stated the
  well known views of the Greek government, arguing about the so-called
  non-existent Macedonian minority in Greece; referring to a small
  number of people speaking a "Slavic idiom" in Northern Greece.

  The speeches of the representative of Rainbow can be seen on

  Beside the official program of the meeting the representative of
  Rainbow, Mr. Voskopoulos Pavlos, had the opportunity to discuss
  briefly with the Greek Ambassador of the OSCE, Mr. Lyssandros Miliaresis-Fokas
 who was participating in this event.

    This short discussion is the following text.
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  V. Good afternoon Mr. Ambassador. It was a tough day for all of us,
  don't you think so?

  A. How much money are you getting paid Mister for saying all of this
  here?

  V. I am surprised Mr. Ambassador. As I know you are officially paid
  good enough for being here, representing our country. We are
  financially
  supported by ourselves in such a meeting.

  May I ask you Mr. Ambassador if the representative of the Greek
  minority in Turkey who spoke yesterday, defending the rights of the
  Greek
  minority in Turkey is also paid by somebody? Furthermore, what
  about the Greek minority in Albania? Have they also been paid by
  somebody in their struggle for human rights in Albania?

  A. What I know is that Greece is the most democratic country...

  V. Of course it is a democratic country, but regarding minority rights
  there is a deficit of democracy. Shall we work all together to
  overcome these problems?

  A. There are no minorities in Greece Sir, there is just a Muslim
  minority living in Greece under very good conditions.

  V. But Mr. Ambassador how is it possible that only Greece is the only
  state with no national minorities when all the Balkan States are full
  of them? As there are Greeks in Turkey or Albania there are minorities
  inside the Greek State.

  A. In Greece we have a large minority which is the minority of the
  economical immigrants traveling and staying in our country which is a
  real heaven for them...

  V. Mr. Ambassador all these immigrants are suffering in their
  countries and some of them as it is Sudan for instance, there is an arm
  conflict so its logical that they are coming to Greece for a better
future as
  well as to other European countries. It's not because Greece is heaven
that they
  are coming in our country...By the way, when we are talking about
  immigrants, don't you think that it's time for our country to make a step
forward
  and give Macedonian political refugees who participated the Civil War the
  right to be repatriated. It's more a humanitarian gesture to at least allow
  these people to die in their birthplaces.. .

  A. What are you talking about Mister? You mean to let them enter our
  country as the "Trojan hourse"?

  V. Mr. Ambassador I am surprised with your answer...Those people are
  mostly old men and women around seventy years old... Don't you really
  feel bad that you are representing our country in the OSCE with such
extreme
  views... May I ask you why you did not give the same answers during the
conference
  when the issue was presented by myself?

  A. Listen to me Mister. Greece has shed rivers of blood for its
  glory, for being where it is today!

  V. Mr. Ambassador I am once again surprised. In the present situation
  when we are all trying to build a United Europe, when we are
  fighting for peace in the early beginning of the 21st century you are
  talking about rivers of blood? You should know that we the Macedonians
  in Greece take care very very much about peace and democracy in our
  country, and obviously you can not even imagine this...

  A. Well, if you don't like it you can leave Greece!

  V. Mr. Ambassador I am now really shocked of what you said. Mr.
  Ambassador we  belong to different worlds...

  A. Thanks God we belong to different worlds...

  V. I hope the younger generation of Greek Diplomats will not agree
  with your way of country thinking  ...for the benefit of all of us... Your
  opinion is a shame to our country...

  Good afternoon Mr. Ambassador I am leaving really shocked utter what I've
heard from you...

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